What is the optimist case for Tesla anymore?

REDDIT.COMMay 19, 5:42 PM UTC

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  • The post questions Tesla's high valuation, citing negative cash flow and talent drain to SpaceX and competitors. It argues Tesla is increasingly just a car company, not a tech infrastructure play. The optimistic case supporting current valuations is challenged, suggesting a bearish outlook for TSLA.
What is the optimist case for Tesla anymore?

Tesla has always had a pretty ludicrous P/E, and this year in particular, running a negative cashflow looks pretty rough. But I understand the case that was made in the past; the company is building out tech infrastructure to become far more than a car company. My question is; can that case still be made?

AI has been siponed to SpaceX, general futurism enthusiasm has been siphoned to SpaceX, and what good engineers and programmers there were at the company have been lured to competitors and/or SpaceX. At this point Tesla really does seem to be just a car company, or at most a car and cab company with a poorly integrated battery chain. I understand the pessimistic case really well. But what optimistic case still exists supporting current market valuations of the company?

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