Salesforce is looking interesting on a DCF basis, but the entire bull case hinges on one number. Anyone else digging into this?

REDDIT.COMMar 19, 11:49 AM UTC

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  • An analyst's DCF valuation of Salesforce (CRM) reveals that the stock's potential upside hinges heavily on achieving significant EBITDA margin expansion to 49%, a substantial increase from the current 31%. While consensus estimates project this margin growth, the analyst highlights the risk, noting that at current margins, the stock appears fairly valued. Failure to achieve the projected margin expansion could limit potential gains, making it a key factor for investors to consider.
Salesforce is looking interesting on a DCF basis, but the entire bull case hinges on one number. Anyone else digging into this?

CRM has gotten crushed in the broader SaaS/tech selloff, down nearly 50% from its highs near $365 in late 2024. The whole enterprise software space has been under pressure as the market rotates out of anything AI-adjacent that hasn't immediately monetized, and Salesforce has been caught up in that despite posting record revenue and margins. So I figured it was worth running a proper DCF to see if the selloff has created an actual opportunity or if the market knows something.

The headline result looks compelling. Stockoscope shows an intrinsic value of roughly $320 versus a $195 market price, implying about 65% upside. 10% revenue growth from analyst consensus (42 analysts covering), 9.4% WACC from market data, nothing crazy in the inputs. The stock is sitting at 15x EV/EBITDA, 24x earnings, 8% free cash flow yield - not screamingly cheap but not expensive either for a dominant SaaS platform growing in the double digits.

But the entire valuation swings on one assumption: EBITDA margin. Salesforce's current EBITDA margin is about 31%. They've done an incredible job expanding it. It was 14.5% in FY2022, so they've more than doubled it in four years. But the analyst consensus that feeds into the DCF model is projecting margins reaching 49%. That's a massive jump from where they are today.

I ran a sensitivity table on it. Here are the results:

|EBITDA Margin|Intrinsic Value|Upside vs $195| |:-|:-|:-| |32% (today)|$205 |5%| |38%|$246 |26%| |44%|$287 |47%| |49% (analyst consensus)|$323 |66%|

So, at current margins, you're basically paying fair value. The entire margin of safety comes from believing margins will expand significantly from here. Even getting halfway there (to 38%) gives you decent upside, but 49% is a big number for a company that has to keep investing heavily in AI and still competes against Microsoft, ServiceNow, and others.

What's interesting is that multiples tell a similar story. Compared to 80 tech sector peers, the median peer-implied fair value comes to about $261, roughly 34% upside. So both DCF and relative valuation point to undervaluation.

Two questions for the group: - For those of you who use analyst consensus estimates in your models - how much weight do you actually put on them? In this case, the margin estimates seem to be doing a LOT of heavy lifting. Do you haircut them, use your own assumptions, or just take them as-is? - If you're looking at CRM right now, what margin assumption are you using? Curious whether people think 49% is realistic or if the market is right to be skeptical.

Not investment advice. DYOR.

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